dphouse84 — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:11:30 +0100

excelent; so glad to see this up on the site since i just got my bcr the other day. much thanks operator.

flanger13 — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:27:33 +0100

Thx a lot Bjorn for this nice update !!

sverga — Wed, 06 May 2009 15:04:43 +0100

thank you, excellent work. i´ve used the previous versions as well, and it is now part of my setup.

speed optimization possible?

Schneider — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:48:58 +0100

Thanks Bjorn, is it possible to improve the speed of BCR Performer v1.6 a little more or is it already optimized? If the updates would work a little faster it would be even better. But working fastly on the encoders does not mean more musicality as output, so this is not a big issue. I am just asking out of curiosity.

Vayner — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:34:25 +0100

Could you describe where you are experiencing slowness? Normally interactions should be instant. Or are you referring to the updates of auto-refresh mode? Cheers - Bjorn

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:15:26 +0100

Wow, cool, I didn't know that something like this would be possible for the BCR - thanks a lot! Now I got think my whole assignments over and some script get useless:)

Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:58:24 +0100

will BCR performer only work on live 8 + ?

Vayner — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:04:00 +0100

It should work with any application really. the only crucial thing here is the Max runtime. Beyond that you can route the MIDI wherever you wish to. Cheers - Bjorn

Silverfish — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:15:00 +0100

Bjorn- I'm sure M4L has been gobbling up your time, but I was curious what the future of this project might be. Will it be (or has it been) integrated into M4L? Thanks

Vayner — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:39:33 +0100

Hey Silverfish, Due to MIDI limitations in Live which require workarounds, it doesn't make much sense to do a M4L version of this yet. You'd still require the Max Runtime app. (or 16 MIDI Tracks in Live) The Clip Mapper I've made for M4L is part of my new way of thinking. The BCR Performer was a way for me to get even more presets out of the unit. So now you can have hundreds of knobs and buttons, but its not really helping that much to keep things easy. Now I just assign the parameters I require to clips, to be recalled when the clips are triggered. It makes much more sense for me personally. Cheers - Bjorn

Silverfish — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:19:44 +0100

Thanks for the info, Bjorn. I've just had a quick play with your clip mapper, but I think I need to spend more time with it to fully wrap my head around what it's capable of.

Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:24:14 +0100

Hi Bjorn what a great idea! Ableton doesn't show max runtime in the midi routing section of the preferences tab in windows ??? - so from what you said i guess i select a spare midi yoke IN port from the 'from host to bcr perf. then BCR {1} for the second [bcr performer to bcr] and third bcr to bcr performer then finaly a midi yoke OUT port from the 'from bcr performer to host' drop down? and then enable the remote output for the midi yoke in and out port in ableton? having done this ^^ ableton still doesn't recieve midi from the bcr -do you have any idea why this is?

Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:37:52 +0100

sorry Bjorn I just notice that once i turned on the track option on the IN midi yoke port it worked ! [whoops] it just doesn't display the midi data being inputted by the cpu usage percentage also it seemed to have some latency but that was correct by changing the port type to direct music in the midi routing section thanks again for such an awesome app!!

javi — Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:33:23 +0100

thanks for this great patch... just one question what about the footswitch....

Vayner — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:27:55 +0100

I'm afraid this patch was made without the footswitch in mind. Do you have any specific requests for it? - Bjorn

javi — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:29:24 +0100

well, im using it to do some strange stuff.but i have another question. im trying to find the way that i can see the ableton`s vu meter at the bcr. knobs leds. just like cubase do . it`s really usefull to see whats going on. i found this pluggo app but i cant run it with live 8, http://www.thecovertoperators.org/uploads/VolumeMeterBCR.zip did you try something like this before? thanks. ps. i also have problems with live and the bcr, after some time without pressing any knob or button lives lose the conection. and i have to switch off and on the bcr..

kwisz — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:39:02 +0100

Hello, I recieve this message from Max Runtine on load: presets: file Default_Labels.maxpresets not found. Is it ok? Also Behringer Editor gives me a message when I am trying to import sysex files provided - Wrong file type: Sorry the file you selected is not usable. I am complete noob to midi controllers,. Could it work without the SysEx files being imported? Thanks

MP — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:42:53 +0100

what a great piece of software! - is there anyway to assign the first 8 presets to the first row of 8 button on the bcr ? - Is there any problem duplicating assignments between presets using bcr performer? Thanks!

Vayner — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:30:15 +0100

Hi MP, 1) Use the 3rd sysex file and manually reprogram those buttons using CC0 value 1 to 8. 2) Not understanding what you mean with this. Cheers - Bjorn

MP — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:34:07 +0100

Great - I've managed to program presets 1-8 on the first 8 buttons!!! - I also found that by moving the top right rotary encoder to 'on' position turns made it so only 1 button is illuminated at once (to show which preset is selected in this case!) i think you already answered point 2) in you explainations above - but i only just understood it! Two more questions - (sorry!) I've set the BCRP software up as you say (Its says BCR2000 not BCR2000 port 1 as you can seen in this screenshot http://www.sendspace.com/file/neww08 ), the BCRP is responding to the controller, but live is not receiving any midi data ? 1) I'm using OSX (new to mac) - and have set the BCR to USB MODE2. -OK? 2)I haven't installed any drivers for the BCR as the quick start guide says it will use osx's own driver? . Do i need other drivers? If i do, which ones ? Thanks again! I can't wait to start using it!!!

Vayner — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:39:18 +0100

I think you might need a different mode. Can't recall which one, but it looks like your preferences are missing the second port. That might explain the lack of port names. Normally you should be able to access the MIDI in and out ports on the BCR and not just the usb port. But then again if this was just the usb port, it should work. You definitely need to change the BCR mode. I think its USB mode 1.

edward sharp — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:31:55 +0100

this is very swanky! thanks for putting this out there, very useful stuff. i got the thing going in record time! thanks for all the goodies. the only thing that is still kind of wonky is when I tap a preset button (< or >) it makes the top 2x8 buttons on/off, which is sweet. And usually the max patch stops recognizing the lower knobs (but the midi channel still gets transposed!) in order to get back to the change preset mode i've gotta resend the SysEx (and it's kind of slow, i should decrease the time between notes but i fear errors). wishing i could peek at the source but using the max runtime because my demo ran out. something like this in PureData would be bliss~! srsly, the sysex file is quite useful, maxpatch typed-presets names saves a lot of masking tape and magic marker! THX!

No info back?

Danny — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:53:18 +0100

Hey there, Thanks for this - its amazing. I have a little problem though - it seems to be working fine in the BRC > Live direction - but changing stuff in live (with a mouse or another controller) doesn't make the LED's change in reverse... is this a limitation, or something I've set up wrong? I've got in/out set to midi yoke 1 in live in performer i have perf > live as midi yoke 1, and perf > BRC as BRC 1 Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks again :)

Vayner — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:02:17 +0100

I think you may have set it up wrong. You will need a second MIDI (Yoke) port for the return signal. Does the app update when you change parameters?

Danny — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:26:08 +0100

Live updates when I change parameters on the BCR - Performer doesn't update when I change parameters in Live - but i'm only using 1 midi yoke port (IN1 and OUT1)... should I set it to OUT2? i'd assumed that IN1 and OUT1 are actually independant ports...?

Danny — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:06:23 +0100

Thanks! I managed to get it working both ways by playing with the settings... Some new issues; 1) I see what schneider meant with the delay - when you move a control in LIVE, it takes about 2seconds to update on the BCR - is there any way to get this more instant? 2) is there any way to make the 16 preset select LEDs to stay on when using the 'BCR Performer 1.6 Button 33-48.syx' setting? once you press a preference you dont know what you're on any more, would be nice to keep the LED lit Thanks again, such a cool thing :)

Vayner — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 03:13:30 +0100

1) The update rate is because the application has to keep polling for changes. At this rate, it doesn't affect performance. But once its cranked up, it does. 2) Its been a while since I've actually used this myself. I switched to a different controller and Max for Live. I probably won't find the time to work more on this until Ableton gives us a runtime, so this application can be embedded inside Live. Hopefully soon! Cheers - Bjorn

Danny — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:21:23 +0100

OK Bjorn, thanks so much for sharing this - its still great! I don't think the delay is a problem so much - I'm guessing if I need any more responsiveness than 2 seconds I won't be using the mouse! Interestingly though, if i change present and then back again inside that 2 seconds it's still updated! Cheers :)

Vayner — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:32:43 +0100

Actions made to control something should happen instantly. Updating all the dials and LED's are a bit delayed. I just checked and the delay is actually 1000ms. A bit slower than a blink, but its still reasonable I think. Cheers - Bjorn

Kim — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:49:27 +0100

Hi Bjorn, This is a great thing! I am using a Livid Code controller, and there I have the same issue. So, I wonder; do you think your application can be used with the Livid Code controller? If so, how does the midi-mapping look for the BCR (which cc's to which knobs etc.) - and I'm wondering if someone has already made something like this in the maxforlive.com library ...

Vayner — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:28:35 +0100

Hi Kim, Check out the Sixteen Macros device for MFL. http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=606 Cheers, - Bjorn

Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:17:49 +0100

I love you

Charlie — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:33:13 +0100

Hey dude, Hope you still check these messages! I've been struggling with this for about a week now and its driving me crazy! I'm trying to use your patch with five12s Numerology (http://www.five12.com/n3.html) so that I can control different stacks (on diff. midi channels) all from the 1 patch on my BCR. I downloaded MIDI monitor and your patch seems to be doing its job but numerology seems to still be getting info direct from the BCR rather than from max. any ideas? thanks! Charlie

Vayner — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:39:07 +0100

Not familiar with the settings in Numerology, but you would have to block incoming signals of the BCR. Since the Max patch is the BCR output.